A Debate with VenomFangX !! Do not miss it!

Ibn Anwar(Pastor Onomatopoeia) & Nibbyrebel VS VenomFangX


  A few days ago, precisely on 30th June, 2008 just a few minutes after I woke up, finished bathing and all I entered oJJI Christian Muslim Dialogue oJJI as usual. When I arrived the room had almost 100 people in it. The moment I stepped into the room several people jumped at me(metaphorically) and urged me to debate VenomFangX, which I obviously couldn’t resist. I’ve been wanting to debate him for quite sometime and he’s been avoiding my challenges all the while. This was an opportunity I couldn’t let slip. So, Alhamdulillah I accepted the offer. VenomFangX with his hero-like bravado challenged both me and nibbyrebel who was suppose to debate him before my arrival to the room. We refused at first, saying it would be unfair on him. Each of us i.e. nibbyrebel and myself offered to debate VenomFangX on a one-on-one basis. VenomFangX refused this. He was adamant that he debated us both. He probably thought he’ll appear mighty-like if he took upon two Muslims at a time. In any case, whatever the reason was it surely proved too much for Venom as you shall witness in he debate. I will not be listing all the errors VenomFangX committed in the debate as I did Christian_Prince. All the points he raised were dealt with during the debate and in my commentary which is Part 10 of the series of uploads of the debate on youtube. Anyway, without any more delay please check out the debate here www.youtube.com/pastoronomat . Have fun!


Ibn Anwar VS Heliopolis/Fares(Arab Chrisian Evangelist)

 Debate between Ibn Anwar and Heliopolis

by Ibn Anwar

Summary of the debate

  A couple of days ago a debate between the Arab Christian Evangelist Heliopois and me took place on Paltalk in oJJI Christian Muslim Dialogue oJJI under Social Issue in the Human Rights section. The debate was on the “Authenticity of the Bible and the Qur’an”. It was a very civil debate and I congratulate Heliopolis for being respectful and not resorting to ad hominem as his fellow believer Christian Prince always does. Besides me bother abu_shaab who was moderating the debate also participated, but only shortly. My first challenge to Heliopolis was on John3:38 and Matthew 2:23 which speak of prophecies concerning Jesus from the Old Testament. Somehow rather, these prophecies are not to be found anywhere in the Old Testament! We also proposed 1st John 5:7 as additional evidence that the Bible(s) has been changed. By the way I am Pastor Onomatopoeia on paltalk.

What is interesting is that Heliopolis when given John 3:38 made a rather damning statement:

The Deception of Christian Prince Unveiled

The Blunders of Christian Prince

by Ibn Anwar

  Yesterday, on the 24th of June 2008 on Paltalk, Allah the Most High and the Most Great inspired the great Muslim hater Christian Prince to enter into the den of the lion. Those who know Christian Prince are very well aware of the fact that he rarely steps out of the comfort of his own room. However, yesterdy..miracle of miracles, he entered our room oJJ0 Christian Muslim Dialogue oJJ0 with most of his flock behind him. Indeed, the moment he stepped into the room, streams of Christians began to flood in. In fact, the room received its biggest hit count since its inception, numbering over 110 people. Gomerozdubar aka Dr. Zayed Yasin, a popular Muslim apologist who frequents Paltalk immediately took the micrphone and challenged the whole Christian audience to a duel. Obviosly, Christian Prince with allhis bravado and holier than thou attitude raised his hand and accepted the challenge. Brother Gomerozdubar quickly without the slightest hesitation or doubt striked Christian Prince with the topic of, “Did the Bible God make people eat their own children”. Instead of answering the question with all humility and respect as is the command of 1st Peter 3:15, Christian Prince hopscotched and dodged and began to speak about the Qur’an. Instead of answering the simple straight-forward question he began to talk about an entirely different topic namely, Khidr and the boy whom he slew. It was a rather amusing scene. In this article, I will be highligting the blunders committed by Christian Prince in his arguments. Before you continue with the commentary, please proceed to http://www.youtube.com/pastoronomat to listen to the uncut debate as recorded by me. Enjoy the ride!

Subjugating the fallacies of John of Damascus

John of Damascus/Saint John Damascene’s thoughts on Islam

by Ibn Anwar

 Today, whilst looking for material for my blog at my university’s library I found a very interesting book on the thoughts of the reputed John of Damascus recapitulated from his two writings, “On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites” and “The Disputatio Saraceni Et Christani”. The book is entitled “John of Damascuson Islam, the Heresy of the Ishmaelites” by Daniel J. Sahas. In this brief article we shall observe and analyse some of the things highlighted by Daniel J. Sahas on what John of Damascus said about Islam and the Muslims whom he lived with in Damascus and elsewhere. Before we begin with the subject proper, let us get a brief sketch of who this John of Damascus character was.

  John of Damascus or Saint John Damascene as he is known in the Catholic tradition was born in Damascus around 676 C.E. His grandfather Mansur bin Sargun may have met Khalid b. Walid r.a. in the defeat of Damascus by the sahabah and his army. John grew up to become a priest and a monk. For a person in his time and age he was a voracious writer and wrote quite extensively on the Christian faih. Perhaps above all else he is much known for his love and support of venerating images to which he wrote three “Apologetic Treatises Against those Decrying the Holy Images”. He is also known for his famous work called “The Fountain of Wisdom” or “Fount of Knowledge”. He’s one of the earliest Cristian thinkers to have dealt with Islam in a comparative manner and one of the early Christian polemists against Islam in Christian history. John of Damascus died in 746 C.E. He was canonised and is considered by the Roman Catholic Church as the “last of the Church Fathers” or the “last of the Greek Fathers”. He was made a doctor of the Church by the Vatican in 1883.

Heyns Lecture Series: Misquoting Jesus

Could this be the Cave from Surah Al-Kahf?

Asalmaulakym Wr Wb,

I found something interesting on BBC World News:Jordan cave may be oldest church. Could this be the cave mentioned in Surah Al-Kahf?

Did the Prophet forbid reading the Bible?

Israeliyyat Narrations(narrations from Jews and Christians)

by Ibn Anwar

Recently, under the Trinity thread on seekingilm a brother with the nick name tru_quran asked the following:

Assalamu ‘alaykum,

Can anyone give me the reference where Prophet Muhammad(saws) forbade the Sahabah from reading other religious book except Qur’an…..then the reference where he(saws) allowed them later; i think it was because their Imaan was high enough and they understood tawhid so he(saws)allowed them to read them.?

Jazak’Allah khair


I am aware that there are Muslims out there who disagree with our usage of the Bible apart from the Qur’an and Sunnah in our da’wah activities. They say that the Prophet s.a.w. never used it and even forbade its usage, so we shouldn’t follow the likes of the late Ahmed Deedat, Shibli Zaman, Bassam Zawadi etc. However, disagreement does not equal to binding religious prohibition. This article is a humble attempt in response to the first request from tru_quran and the claim against using Bible for da’wah purposes. The following material is based on notes from my Ulum Al-Qur’an or Sciences of the Qur’an course under the tutelage of Assoc. Prof. Dr. Israr Khan. Note that the translations of the quotations provided are the professor’s.