TurinShroud aka 15toOne Christian Evangelist from England UNVEILED!

Exchanges with TurinShroud/15toOne on paltalk

  Throughout the exchanges the readers will be able to notice that the moment this individual who champions Christianity is cornered he will retaliate and lash out with plenty of ad hominem and totally fail to logically and reasonably offer civilised explanations or responses. Readers will also be able to notice that failing miserably in defending his religion he will tend to attack Islam instead. Do not be fooled by this nefarious tactic. Make no mistake about this. It is a very common and useful tactic in a debate, but it is indeed a big time fallacy. It actually proves that the opponent is ill equipped at defending his beliefs which are being questioned. I hope the readers will enjoy the ride and find some benefit in the dialogue. Here is a final note before we embark. During the course of your reading, I would like you to always keep this verse in mind:

prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” (1 Thessolonians 5:21)

Failure to do so(PROVE ALL THINGS) will result in the total dismissal of Christianity. Let us therefore begin.

*For the purpose of brevity print screen shots of our private messages will not be provided. If you require them as proof i.e. that I’m not just making all these up you may email me at ibnanwar@yahoo.com for them. I will be more than happy to send you the shots.

Is John the Baptist the last prophet?

Is there a last prophet in the Bible?

by Ibn Anwar

I was having a discussion with a Christian on paltalk today by the nick name LoveCryReason about Islam and whether it’s a true religion or not. He questioned the legitimacy of Muhammad’s s.a.w. prophethood based on his understanding of Matthew 11:13 which according to him says that there will be no prophet after John the Baptist. The Christian evangelist VenomFangX also shares a similar notion. Is this a correct position to take?

“For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.” (Matthew 11:13)

Fares nailed himself!

Fares_1343, the Christian Arab Paltalk Evangelist soundly exposed himself

  Fares_1343 has finally revealed to us all what kind of a person he is i.e. a liar. This occured in Central Debate Jews VS Muslims, Human Rights, Social Issues on Paltalk at around 1:00 AM to 2:00 AM, Tuesday, 11.4.2008 Malaysian time. We were discussing the divinity of Jesus and the concept of atonement. Fares was soundly refuted and he kept repeating himself over and over again which made everybody laugh. The debate was between myself and Fares_1343 with Ani_Po, a Jewish woman chipping in a couple of times. I wish I had recorded the discourse, but I don’t have a recording software on this computer at the moment. However, the whole room audience witnessed how Fares got stripped apart piece by piece. Failing to respond logically and scriptually to my points one can understand the nervousness he was experiencing and how he had to vent out his frustrations as a result of that. In venting his frustrations he inadvertently exposed himself and without a doubt sealed the deal for us.

Will the saints in Matthew please stand up!

Miraculous historical incident or fairy tale?

by ibn Anwar

  The following story is a short narrative of an incident which allegedly occured after the alleged death of Jesus Christ by crucifixion. How credible is it to the eye of scrutiny? We shall see.

“The tombs were opened, and the bodies of many holy people who had died came back to life.They came out of the tombs after he had come back to life, and they went into the holy city where they appeared to many people.”(Matthew 27:52-53)

It says that many holy or saintly people rose from their graves and marched into Jerusalem! In case you do not know, Jerusalem back then was like New York today. It was a very important city and is not just some small township. Yet, amazingly enough the only human being who witnessed the event and thought to put it into writing was the author of Matthew! Can you imagine dead saintly people rising from their graves and walking into a city and meeting MANY people? It would be the news of not just the century, but rather the single greatest news in the whole of human history. Reason demands that such a novel incident gets recorded by one and all. Yet, we find total silence by one and all except for that solitary individual in Matthew. Not one of the other three gospels mentioned the event. Not one! The problem is compounded further when we are informed by the following from a famous Bible commentary that :

A study of Isaiah 9:6

Is Jesus God based on Isaiah 9:6?

by Ibn Anwar

   Dr. Andrew Bartelt, Vice President and Academic Dean at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis is one of many trinitarian Christians who argue for Jesus’ (alleged) deity on the basis of Isaiah 9, verse 6. If you are in a discussion regarding the Trinity it is difficult to miss the verse. You will no doubt come across it. In this article we shall explore whether Isaiah 9:6 stands to scrutiny in regards to the belief that it does not just foretell the coming of Jesus, but most importantly it speaks of his “divinity”.

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”(Isaiah 9:6)

Was Hagar Abraham’s wife according to the Bible?

 Was she a wife or just a concubine? Putting the record straight once and for all

by Ibn Anwar

 

  Christians believe that Hagar was of a lesser position compared to Sarah, Abraham’s first wife. Many would deny her as Abraham’s wife, saying she was only a bondwoman, a slavewoman or a concubine. Some would even go so far as to suggest that the first son of Abraham, Ishmael was illigitimate. What is the cause for these views that are regarded as totally erronuous by Muslims? In my own personal view, the reason is because Muhammad s.a.w. a real opponent of Christianity and Judaism and considered as such by their followers claimed lineage via Ishmael(Isma’il in Arabic). Some Christians may think that by demeaning Hagar, Muhammad’s credibility by extension can be shaken. I’m not saying this is the only window of opportunity for these detractors, but, it is one of many. It has been the nature of many Christians(not all) throughout the ages to attack Islam from whichever and whatever position possible. One of the earliest can be traced back to John of Damascus which I’ve written about in an article prior to this one.  Since then, hundreds and thousands of literature have been dedicated and circulated the world over in the never ending effort of attacking Islam and its followers. What then is my response to this particular angle of offense?

Where did Jesus claim,”Worship me or I am God” ?

What is the basis for the Muslim apologist in asking “Where did Jesus call for his worship and claim divinity”?

by Ibn Anwar

 

For those who have watched and followed Ahmed Deedat’s(may Allah have mercy on him) debates and lectures and others who have followed suit such as Sami Zaatari are very well familiar with the often asked question,”Where did Jesus claim,”Wroship me or I am God?” “. For those of you who aren’t familiar with this line of questioning, insha’Allah, you will be exposed to it in this article. Muslim apologists since Ahmed Deedat have always demanded proof from the Christians for their claims, especially in regards to the divinity of Jesus. The most common and straight forward method is to ask directly, where did Jesus clearly and explicitly claim to be God or asked people to worship him if he is indeed God. The reason for this kind of query is really quite simple. Muslims have been taught from childhood in our scriptures i.e. the Qur’an and Sunnah, that God does not shy from declaring His soverignty and divinity. The idea is that if someone or something is God then the first thing that ought to come to mind for a reasonable individual is did the being claim to be God or was this something that people attached to him/it? This is actually a very important question. Let’s take a down-to-earth example for a clearer picture about this. Let’s say we have George and the people of Britain. George is connected through blood to the British royal family. One fine day the entire royal household died and others disappeared leaving only George unscathed. The British monarchy is in tatters and will probably end if George does not take his place aas rightful heir to the throne. The parliament begins an emergency session and calls George to save the day and be crowned King. Can they force him to do it or does he have to claim it? The answer is of course, he has to accept and claim the throne as his own. Let’s consider a similar scenario but with a little tweak. British royal family destroyed, killed, decimated, disappeared etc. leaving no clear successor in sight. George is there but there is no definite or clear sign of blood ties to royalty from him. Some vague proof is salvaged and ambiguously links him to the British royal family. Parliament wants him to be king, since there is no one else but he does not make any claim to royalty and dies without making any such claim. Can someone later legitimately label him as King of England? The answer should be no. So as we can see, it is indeed very important for someone or a being to make a clear cut claim when it comes to matters of sovereignty. Did Jesus make such a claim? That is indeed the question. Whether he did or not is not something which we will explore in detail in this article. The purpose of this article is to establish some grounds for the Muslim approach as regards to the title.