William Wagner Unveiled

William Wagner  exposed & put to shame with 1 Bible verse

by Ibn Anwar

William Wagner is a Christian missionary and an author on a popular Christian apologetics “4truth”. He has written an article on “Fear in Islam” which is featured on the site. You may read the article here.

In the article he wrote under “The Fear of Allah” :

“He is not the loving God that we find in Christianity but one who rules with an iron fist. The Koran tells the readers that they should fear Allah. Not only do they fear their God but they are deathly afraid of being eternally damned by an angry Allah. ”

His concluding remarks in the article were :

“Almost all Muslims that I have met have a great amount of fear in their lives once you get past the outer layer of piety. They often marvel at how we in the West can be so positive about our religion and our relationship with God. ”

I marvel at how the West can be so positive about adultery and fornication i.e. not seen as a crime. I also marvel at those great born-again Christians like Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggart. I also marvel at the great show of piety by Church leaders like the ones presented on this site who die in “sexual bondage” etc.

William Wagner then concluded:

“Let us as Christians, do all we can to bring our Muslims brothers and sisters out of the darkness of fear and into the light of love and hope.”

My suggestion to him and others like him is to read their book first and learn it thoroughly before wanting to share it with Muslims or anyone else.

Let’s get down to business, shall we?

The Bible is all about love and hope, eh? Islam is in the darkness because we are commanded to “FEAR GOD” !!! That is just horrendous and evil!!!

Okay, fine..let’s see their hope and love filled Bible – FREE of FEAR :

“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

(Ecclesiastes 12:13)

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3 Responses to “William Wagner Unveiled”

  1. Abou-Wadee3 says:

    By the way I don’t think you are very skilled language-wise because when I say Fear God it is totally different than being scared of Him, Fearing God means that I live my life according to God’s plan in my life and being obedient to Him, in Arabic it is much more clear it is called “Makhafet Allah” مخافة الله,. Now being scared of God “Akhaf min Allah” أخاف من الله is not being able to sleep because I am scared from the torture in the grave that I am going to get from God after I die. and being also always scared since Muslims usually have no idea if they are going to heaven or hell since their Goods deeds vs Bad Deeds have to be measured in a scale first then God would decide where to place them next according to which is heavier bad deeds then it’s hell, Good deeds then heaven even with all that illustration the Prophet of Islam himself did not have any gurantee to anybody confirming that he would be going to heaven not even to himself he wasn’t sure where he would be going too, which leads us into a nother conclusion, which is: Why would a blind man follow a blind man. You see the difference Sir.

  2. Ibn Anwar says:

    Greetings,
    I thank you for thinking that you’remore well-endowed than me when it comes to language. We shall see.
    You accused me of being unskilled in language and that the word fear in ecclesiasted doesn’t mean being scared of God but rather being obedient to him and following His plan. Then you started explaining it in Arabic. I’m sorry to burst your bubble mister, but the Bible isn’t based on Arabic, is it? The word fear there was translated from Hebrew not Arabic. So your whole thesis was pointless. Let us see what the word is in the Hebrew.

    סוף דבר הכל נשמע את־האלהים ירא ואת־מצותיו שמור כי־זה כל־האדם׃

    sof davar hakol nishma et-haelohim yera veet-mitsvotav shemor ki-ze kol-haadam:

    The word there is “yare” which is pronounced as yawray. According to Strong’s Lexicon the word means:
    3372 yare’ yaw-ray’ a primitive root; to fear; morally, to revere; caus. to frighten:–affright, be (make) afraid, dread(-ful), (put in) fear(-ful, -fully, -ing), (be had in) reverence(-end), X see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).

    Yes, to be frighten, afraid, full of fear, terrible etc.

    In fact, it is the precise same word used in Genesis 32:11 where we read:

    “Deliver me, I pray thee, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau: for I fear him, lest he will come and smite me, and the mother with the children.”

    It’s talking about fear and how he is frightened that someone will come to hurt him physically. So it’s not just about obeying the decrees of God and following His plan, but to fear His wrath as well. But you see, even the attempted explanation fails. There is not a single lexicon on earth which defines yare or fear as obeying the laws of God and His plan. It just means fear or to be frighten of. However, I do agree that by fearing God we obey His commands. That is why yare is mentioned prior to shamar(to keep, guard) mitsvah(command, because fear makes people obey and keep the command. So I think it is safe to say that you have completely missed the point yet again Abou-Wadee3.

  3. Ali says:

    Sallam,
    very good responses brother, this man obviousley have more bark, then bite.

    A great Imam once said,
    that there are three reasons why muslims pray, and fast etc etc,
    from fear of Allahs Punishment(sawt)
    from wanting the paradis of Aallah ()sawt)
    and from wanting a relationship with Aallah (sawt)

    Sallam
    p.s. sorry for any spelling mistakes

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